New photos on my L. williamsi

New photos on my L. williamsi

Postby kentbra » Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:08 pm

Here are some fresh photos on my Lygodactylus williamsi.
They are doing great and these are the second generation captives I have.
They just reached adults and will soon be ready to breed.

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Male on a leaf

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Male

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Notice the green female in the top.

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Males are really brilliant blue.

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Females are green normaly.

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But they turns darker to almost brown, when pregnant.

This species is really easy to care for and not as shy as many other Lygodactylus species.

Reach adult in 7 to 8 month and will breed all year around.

I keep my breeders in groups of 3 to 5 males with 7 to 10 females, in large and wellplanted terrariums.
This seems to work out the best. I tryed to keep them in pairs, but they don´t produce so much eggs then.

They do not fight so much with each other.

I can really recommened this species to all that are looking for a dayactive and pretty Gecko.

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Postby Hellemar » Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:42 am

Hi...


They are really really nice... :shock:



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Postby Michelle » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:46 am

Those are beautiful!
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Postby SarkkaS » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:59 am

These were another species that I was looking for, but couldn't really find. How much do these beautiful animals go for these days?


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Postby Bushviper » Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:36 am

They look as if photoshop had a good go at them. Really pretty geckos. I am suprised they survive in the wild with those brilliant colours.

How big is the terrarium? I take it they eat the babies and the eggs have to be removed?
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Postby mania » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:16 am

Wow those are really awesome.
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Postby kentbra » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:09 am

Here is some info on my Williamsi.
Got my first animals from a friend that worked at a small zoo in Arusha/Tanzania. They had some that breed regulary and I managed to buy 10 halfgrown juveniles in December 2005.
Well to get them with proper paper and to import them toke some time and I did not get them until March 2006.
All 10 did great and was housed together.
From these 10 only 9 survived and they turned up to be 4 males and 5 females. It is from these I have all my breeders today. 6 of them are still hanging on.
I keept some in pairs to start with, in small terrarium. 35 x 35 cm and 50 cm high, but they did not breed well.
So now I keep them in small groups with 4 to 7 males and twice that many females in larger terrariums.
They are 75 x 60 cm and 80 to 100 cm high, well planted with live plants.
I do not remove any eggs, but leave them to hatch inside terrarium.
I have not noticed that the adults eats any of the babies.
The eggs hatch already after 42 to 55 days and they grow fast. They can reach adult in 6 to 7 month.
Only the males are Turkish Blue and females are green with some blue on the sides.
The juveniles are brownish green and they turn to adult color when about 4 cm. Males turnes blue direct and females turnes slowly green.
I feed them with small insects such as housefly, fruitfly, small roaches, a lot of wc insects and some fruitjuice.
The most fascinating thing about Williamsi is that they are not shy. My animals will jump on to me when I open the terrarium and are not afraid for any humans.
They are also less aggressive than most Lygodactylus species.
As far as I know, I am the only one breeding this species. But I am sure that in the future there will be more of us.
They are protected in Tanzania and any legal export does not exist. Few animals had found their way to Europe and even USA. But must of them done poorly and have died.
WC animals are often full of parasite and dehydrated.

Since they grow fast and breed all year around I think in a couple of years from now they will be more availble and prices will have settled.
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Postby kentbra » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:16 am

Another species that I am trying to work with is Lygodactylus fisheri.

But unfortunaly I have only 4 juveniles and I think they are all males.
This species are hard to come by since their is no good exporters in Cameroon.
I tryed several, but so far only lost a lot of money.

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Postby kentbra » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:20 am

Here is a photo on my terrarium that I keep one breeding group in.

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More photos will come.

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Postby SarkkaS » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:22 pm

What is that vivarium made of? The geckos look great as always. The mild temper was a complete surprise to me :)


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Postby Bushviper » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:47 pm

Now you have all of us wishing we could get some of these lovely geckos.

When I was a youngster I kept L. capensis and they also became very tame. They would jump out of the cage and take a fly from my fingers and then jump back into the cage. They also bred regularly.

Because of that experience I cannot use Lygodactylus as food and rather release or give away any snake that has to feed on geckos.
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Postby kentbra » Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:07 pm

The cool temp is because the photo is taken early in the morning.
Max temp is 32 degrees under a spotlight.
The terrarium is made of OSB a type of board.

As for prices, I can mention that a friend and wholesaleimporter in Germany just recived 50 pair in a Tanzania shipment.
Ok, they was sent as Lygodactylus ssp. But since they are not on any Cities it should not be any problem.
My guess is that retailprice should get around 400 Euro each for them.
Compare that to some rare species of Phelsuma and the different is not that big.

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Postby thorrshamri » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:13 am

Just awesome... :shock:
Thanks for the data on those species ,it may help gecko enthusiasts like me! ;)
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Postby kentbra » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:14 pm

Just sent my last breedinggroup of L. williamsi to Hellemar for keeping.
I will be going to Thailand soon and I am sure he will take good care of them.
If I know Hellemar right he will soon be posting photos he on SA forum.

Have a nice winter.
I know I will

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Postby SarkkaS » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:25 pm

You're going to Thailand for the winter? Will you bring back animals? ;)


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