A small monitor?

[Ales]

Hey guys,i was just wondering if there are any monitors for sale in SA that are not so expensive and are smaller than bosch monitors?

[Buck Rogers]

Ridge tailed monitors will be your best bet, they are not abundant but they are available and expect to pay up to R2200+

[10gbooj]

Ales if i'm not mistaken dragonfire had some ackies available not too long ago. Looking at around 2k

[Ales]

Oh i was thinking of something for under R1000.What should the price for a baby bosc monitor be?in the Joburg area.

[Buck Rogers]

About R900 or less always negotiate the price as they are not captive bred.

[Ales]

Thanks
Who gets permission to bring them down to SA

[uncutdiamonds]

About R900 or less always negotiate the price as they are not captive bred.

How do you know they aren't captive bred here, by now?!

[bubblesharp]

About R900 or less always negotiate the price as they are not captive bred.

How do you know they aren't captive bred here, by now?!

Fair Question. They are really hard to breed in captivity as I understand and with the numbers available I don't think that we are at the point where majority is captive bred. There is probably a lot of people that are busy breeding them and soon the prices should be starting to come down as captive bred babies fills the gaps in the market.

[uncutdiamonds]

Fair Question. They are really hard to breed in captivity as I understand and with the numbers available I don't think that we are at the point where majority is captive bred.

Are they really harder to breed then i.e. Bosc monitors. I understand them, to be from the same genus. Anatomical and temperamental differences can still be big, tough.

There is probably a lot of people that are busy breeding them and soon the prices should be starting to come down as captive bred babies fills the gaps in the market.

I saw one today in a shop - it was however not for sale. Assistant said they will be getting in new ones.

[bubblesharp]

Fair Question. They are really hard to breed in captivity as I understand and with the numbers available I don't think that we are at the point where majority is captive bred.

Are they really harder to breed then i.e. Bosc monitors. I understand them, to be from the same genus. Anatomical and temperamental differences can still be big, tough.

There is probably a lot of people that are busy breeding them and soon the prices should be starting to come down as captive bred babies fills the gaps in the market.

I saw one today in a shop - it was however not for sale. Assistant said they will be getting in new ones.

I was referring to Bosc being hard to breed as the conversation returned to bosc monitors as wild caught. Not sure which one you referring to now?

If they say its CB, find out who the breeder is, chances are still that it might not be CB, obviously depending on the pet shop reputation etc.

[uncutdiamonds]

...I was referring to Bosc being hard to breed as the conversation returned to bosc monitors as wild caught. Not sure which one you referring to now?

As far as I can see, Bosc monitors have been bred for a while. I've been offered this and also so that at shops. Price and volume indicated that it wasn't an import.

I was thinking of Goannas, australian monitors.

If they say its CB, find out who the breeder is, chances are still that it might not be CB, obviously depending on the pet shop reputation etc.

Not sure which species they had in the shop. From appearance and description I guess that it is spiny-tailed monitors. They aren't as common as Bosc monitors and I also don't think breeding would be that common.

[bubblesharp]

...I was referring to Bosc being hard to breed as the conversation returned to bosc monitors as wild caught. Not sure which one you referring to now?

As far as I can see, Bosc monitors have been bred for a while. I've been offered this and also so that at shops. Price and volume indicated that it wasn't an import.

I was thinking of Goannas, australian monitors.

Cool, I have only been doing research on bosc's so far as I am only getting into lizzards now. Have my first baby at home but not for breeding. I know there is a lot that is bred, but there are still a lot of WC as far as I know. Interestingly I came across some old figures on Wikipedia in 1984 around 1milion was killed for leather trade and only 900 exported for pet trade. So thinking about those numbers it would seem obvious that there would be more CB that WC, so it is possible that the info I got was very old.
And just like that you make a fool of your self!

[uncutdiamonds]

...Cool, I have only been doing research on bosc's so far as I am only getting into lizzards now. Have my first baby at home but not for breeding. I know there is a lot that is bred, but there are still a lot of WC as far as I know. Interestingly I came across some old figures on Wikipedia in 1984 around 1milion was killed for leather trade and only 900 exported for pet trade. So thinking about those numbers it would seem obvious that there would be more CB that WC, so it is possible that the info I got was very old.
And just like that you make a fool of your self!

That may have been old data. On the other hand I don't know the people that told me that well either.
Demand for monitors and products made of them, should actually stimulate breeding them.

Some of the Austalian monitors the Goannas are actually smaller then Bosc monitors, while some also get bigger.
Given that we actually do have a similar climate then Australia, breeding them here should be possible and work well.

[Bushviper]

Goanna is the Aussie word for what we call a leguaan. Its just the local lingo. They are still Varanus. From the giant perenties to the tiny short tailed monitor are all goannas.

[uncutdiamonds]

Goanna is the Aussie word for what we call a leguaan. Its just the local lingo. They are still Varanus. From the giant perenties to the tiny short tailed monitor are all goannas.

That's how I understand it as well. The early settlers didn't know what that animal was, just that it looked similar to them like iguana - slang made goanna from that. All species I found were from the genus varanus. The ridge tailed monitors from Australia are quite cute.