Legal issues?

Legal issues?

Postby shadowfoot » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:49 pm

Hi,
I was just wondering if it legal to keep parabuthus spp. in the Western Cape? Specifically parabuthus raudus.

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Re: Legal issues?

Postby Westley Price » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:59 pm

Hi Shadowfoot.

In terms of legalities, I am pretty sure you are allowed to keep them as they are not on the TOPS list.

However, it is quite controversial to go out and collect large amounts of animals, so just keep conservation in mind when doing so.

Also, you require to permission of landowners to collect on any private land and of course collecting in nature reserves, parks etc is illegal.
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Re: Legal issues?

Postby shadowfoot » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:26 pm

Thanks Westley
Will keep that in mind.
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Re: Legal issues?

Postby Bushviper » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:55 pm

The way I have it in the Western Cape you require permits for everything except domesticated animals so you will require a permit.

Contact the local conservation authorities and enquire how you go about getting a permit.

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Re: Legal issues?

Postby Westley Price » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:03 pm

I also thought so initally BV, but found this quote from ICM:

I believe the Western Cape only cares about invertebrates coming in to the province. Otherwise the typical laws dealing with scorpion collecting apply? (no collecting of Hadogenes, Opistophthalmus, etc). I see no legislation, so I'm assuming this.


Also found a few other quotes pointing in the same direction. Possibly this only applies to collecting and not keeping? (which would be ridiculous on CN's behalf).

Maybe someone can contact Cape Nature and get a definitive answer?

Or one of our members who is also a member on one of the inverts forums can find an answer for us there?
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Re: Legal issues?

Postby lexer » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:35 am

hy.

i know that 3 Pandinus spec. from central-afrika / east-afrika are protectes and you need CITES papers for this species. only 3 scorpions species are protected !!
Pandinus imperator, Pandinus dictator and Pandinus gambiensis ( i ´am not shure about the third species )

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Re: Legal issues?

Postby Westley Price » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:41 am

Lexer in South Africa A LOT more species are protected by our local legislation.

The species are listed as TOPS (Threatened Or Protected Species) and they are fully protected in all provinces.

Here is a list of all the TOPS inverts in South Africa:

http://www.sareptiles.co.za//forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=17046

If anyone approaches you with these species for sale or trade, you and him both can get into big trouble!
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Re: Legal issues?

Postby shadowfoot » Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:24 pm

Thanks for all the help guys, will phone cape nature and find out.
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