Breeding ATB's

Re: Breeding ATB's

Postby Bushviper » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:53 pm

Marco what makes this even worse is that recently about 60 adult males were dropped into the local market with no females to pair them up with. This means about 40 or 50 people are all looking for that elusive single female of close to breedable size. At this stage ANY female would be worth taking.
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Re: Breeding ATB's

Postby marco valenti » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:15 pm

BV This is sad.Justin got me the one ATB from you and I also got a yellow one from Gavin.They are the most amazing snake for me and would realy love to pair them up,but I have a good feeling that is not going to happen soon.Do you know why one can only find males?
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Re: Breeding ATB's

Postby balls'n all » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:17 pm

Hey guys,

If anyone is still interested in females send me a PM.

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Re: Breeding ATB's

Postby Charles » Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:40 am

marco valenti wrote:BV This is sad.Justin got me the one ATB from you and I also got a yellow one from Gavin.They are the most amazing snake for me and would realy love to pair them up,but I have a good feeling that is not going to happen soon.Do you know why one can only find males?


A couple reasons for there only being males available are females are usually snagged up pretty quick when offered. Another is a theory I have about imports is males are collected more than females because males are the ones out and about looking for females during breeding season and makes them an easier target for collecting than females.
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Re: Breeding ATB's

Postby Snakes4Africa » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:04 am

The other reason is that foreign markets are easier to dupe than the regular, large-scale buyers.
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Re: Breeding ATB's

Postby marco valenti » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:59 am

Is this only with Amazon tree boas or with other exotics aswell?
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Re: Breeding ATB's

Postby balls'n all » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:52 pm

IMO it's not restricted to Amazons only. However the issue is that there are a select few that have the bulk of the market and the rest of us have to settle for what little is left.
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Re: Breeding ATB's

Postby marco valenti » Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:44 pm

But thats the way they make their money.
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Re: Breeding ATB's

Postby balls'n all » Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:40 pm

True, but that seems like greed to me. Most of them are in it for a quick buck and they restrict the market which is not fair. Then again what can we do...
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Re: Breeding ATB's

Postby Bushviper » Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:02 pm

No this was the ignorance of the importer as well as the quality of the exporter. These things happen but if you are paying $18 each for the snakes then the supplier does not really care. Marking them up by so much is not fair to the people who are buying them.
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Re: Breeding ATB's

Postby Fooble » Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:12 pm

Bushviper wrote:Marco what makes this even worse is that recently about 60 adult males were dropped into the local market with no females to pair them up with. This means about 40 or 50 people are all looking for that elusive single female of close to breedable size. At this stage ANY female would be worth taking.



I have the opposite problem.
Cant seem to get a decent male!
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Re: Breeding ATB's

Postby marc bt » Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:46 pm

Tyrone, you can borrow my male next year if you can't get one.
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Re: Breeding ATB's

Postby Fooble » Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:05 pm

marc bt wrote:Tyrone, you can borrow my male next year if you can't get one.


Cheers Marc,
I still want to get one sometime just not some 4/5 year old "retired snake"
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Re: Breeding ATB's

Postby Snakes4Africa » Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:57 pm

By the way... they only start breeding at 2 to 3 years, so a 4 to 5 year old is far from retired. My oldest female is 12 and still breeding well. Males breed for longer. Just get your female big enough and a plan will be easily made.
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Re: Breeding ATB's

Postby Fooble » Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:07 pm

That is interesting,

What i did mean was im not really that keen on buying an adult as lame as it sound is prefer to get them rather young as "grow" them up.


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