This week's road cruise

Re: This week's road cruise

Postby froot » Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:20 pm

I didn't post the location for obvious reasons.


You could at least give a vague description of where you were. This could be Mpumalanga, KZN, NW provence or Limpopo.
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Re: This week's road cruise

Postby dendroaspis » Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:21 pm

I was in my car.
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Re: This week's road cruise

Postby BushSnake » Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:35 pm

Wouldn't post the location either. Interesting but sad trip BTW.
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Re: This week's road cruise

Postby dendroaspis » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:43 pm

Very sad.
I know the DOR's have importance, but I would rather find them alive.
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Re: This week's road cruise

Postby Rob » Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:46 pm

The one on the left is a Cape Filesnake (Mehelya capensis)??
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Re: This week's road cruise

Postby dendroaspis » Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:14 pm

That it is
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Re: This week's road cruise

Postby Rob » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:40 am

Did you only post one pic? The one with 4 DORs?

If so are we sure thats not a very big M. nyassae?
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Re: This week's road cruise

Postby Bushviper » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:17 am

Well I would be suitable impressed if the snake on the left is a Cape file snakes because they are not uniform in colour (they have a white stripe down the back) and are not black either. Possibly you are looking at a differnet picture to what we are.

A general locality would make this post useful but without a region it is just an observation.
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Re: This week's road cruise

Postby Rob » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:46 am

Yeah thats what im sure everyone is wondering RE the Filesnake.

Pythonadipsas - Would R. schlegeli occur as far as Ellisras?

Dendroaspis - I presume it was A. s. scutatus you got, not intermedius?
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Re: This week's road cruise

Postby Bushviper » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:53 pm

R . schlegelli occur from south of Pretoria all they way so Southern Botswana across northern Limpopo across to the whole of Mpumalanga down through Swaziland and into KZN. Ellisras is within that range.
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Re: This week's road cruise

Postby dendroaspis » Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:47 am

I am suitable impressed with all the expert herpetologists on this site that make an accurate i.d. off a grainy photograph of a snake that is barely 30 cm long.

I am not giving you the location.
Why: because there are way too many private collectors viewing the boards and I do not any of them in an area where we are finding all these specimens. Think! If cars are killing off so many animals, I don't want some plonker with an itch up his ass adding to the species loss up there.
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Re: This week's road cruise

Postby dendroaspis » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:09 am

Guys, have fun on this thread. I have lost interest.

Thanks for taking the time to look though.
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Re: This week's road cruise

Postby Rob » Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:02 am

Ok honestly i dont know how you managed to get yourself into a huff over this thread. All I am doing is trying to work out where you found Cape Files and scutatus together. Thats interesting.
Nobody is questioning if you know what a Cape File looks like, I just wondered if it was a typo.
Get over yourself, you didnt have to turn this ugly.
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Re: This week's road cruise

Postby Rob » Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:09 am

People have made IDs off worse pics and if anyone wanted to find any one of those species its easy to find out what area they occur.
Ok so its M capensis, nice find, whatever province you were in.
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Re: This week's road cruise

Postby Pythonodipsas » Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:49 am

Yeah I also think there is a huff for nothing. A general area would suffice like Froot said but if you are worried that forum members are gonna road cruise over the whole of the waterberg area and save the snakes from certain tyre death then I understand. I am willing to bet R100 that these snakes were taken somewhere in the waterberg area, be it Thabazimbi/Vaalwater/Ellisrus, all those roads are productive with all these species. And the roads are sometimes flooded with Naja mossambica.

Regarding the garter snake. I am also willing to bet it is not a sundevallii fitzsimonsi or sundevallii media (the only 2 that could possibly be found in the area). Boulengers garter snakes are relatively common up there. The sundevalli complex still have feint bandig at that size, bouldengeri lose the bands quick. Did you do scale counts? Got a close up of the head? Which specific species did you think it was? Saying sundavalls is vague?
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