Oodles of Noodles

Oodles of Noodles

Postby Mehelya » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:29 am

Just thought I'd share some of my adult and sub-adult Rinkhals. I am hoping that most of these will breed for me this year again.

This group should be ready next year for breeding. Just a bit small for my liking, so they are excused this season.
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This pair needs to get their Barry White on again...
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One of my older pairs
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Another yellow pair
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And I'm beginning to think these are two males...
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This is a common sight when I walk into my facility, but after all the window cleaning, I still love them all...
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Thanks for looking!
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Re: Oodles of Noodles

Postby Allen G. Liebenberg » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:18 pm

Hi Rian.Great to see your Rinkles.Also great to have indigenous stuff :) and not another exotic again. :smt015
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Re: Oodles of Noodles

Postby Westley Price » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:27 pm

Beauties.

I often wonder about the evolution of Rinkhals whether they have a common ancestor with cobras or whether they have a totally separate lineage.
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Re: Oodles of Noodles

Postby Mehelya » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:06 am

Thanks Allan! I do love my spitters... :lol:

Westley, Good question. I have had a look for any phylogenetic trees containing African Elapidae, or the Rinkhals in general, and cannot find much, but I do notice that the Naja and Ophiophagus have a common starting point (see pic below). Perhaps the Rinkhals is nestled in there somewhere? Pity there is not really much information on Rinkhals in more than basic husbandry. Maybe a chat with Graham or Wolfgang is in order...

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Edit:

Came across this minutes after I posted... Seems like they did branch off early on in the elapinae sub-families...
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Re: Oodles of Noodles

Postby Mehelya » Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:53 am

Westley, Found a complete tree for basically every reptile...

http://bmcevolbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2148-13-93

Seems like a primitive cobra developed, and then from them came the Rinkhals and Naja (Point 91, Figure 24 W) split... Seems they are older than the Naja species... Food for though...
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Re: Oodles of Noodles

Postby Westley Price » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:45 pm

Thanx Rian, that is quite an epic publication. Need to print all those out and stick them on a wall for reference.

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