Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Postby don patterson » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:07 pm

Here are some different Carpet Python morphs.The Zebra and Caramel stuff was produced by my good friend Precision Reptiles the rest was by me.
Granite
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Granite Jag
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Irian Jag
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Caramel Jag
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Zebra Jag
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Albinos (50% Irian Jaya)
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Albino Jag
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Thanks for looking.
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Re: Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Postby Mitton » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:35 pm

This is the post I have been waiting for, some stunning Carpets there!
Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Postby Mehelya » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:21 pm

Ditto, Mitton!

Oh man! Those are awesome! As Bushviper said in another post, Carpets are the next Ball Pythons, and I can see why! Is there any info or papers available about the Carpet genetics out? Would be a great read! Just getting into these myself!
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Re: Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Postby imperial exotix » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:37 am

brilliant stuff mate.
I have to say, the Irian Jag is my favorite. If you dont mind the question, what combo is the caramel?
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Re: Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Postby don patterson » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:30 am

Thanks for the kind words.
The Caramel is its own morph with a super. Paul in the UK and Olli(Precision Reptiles) have some amazing super Caramel combos.
Regarding a paper on carpet genetics, do you mean a list of all the morphs and combos so far that exist?
If so I dont know of one.
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Re: Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Postby Mehelya » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:18 am

Don, Yip... Was just wondering about it. As a bad example, if you cross Jungle with Coastal then it gives off 25% this and 25% that, and 50% the other... I'm sure, with the examples seen above which are brilliant, that such things are going to be available in the near future, and the morphs on Carpets is going to go haywire, and explode!

Once again, amazing animals! Have to say I'm particulalry taken by the Granite! Great work!
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Re: Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Postby don patterson » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:39 am

I think your question might be more about crossing carpet species or localities rather than morphs?
Basically crossing carpet species other than maybe Diamond and Jungle, does not lead to much. More brown snakes.
There are a few exceptions, I saw a bredli diamond that looked nice.
I have not heard of any health issues when this is done.
The tricky part is when breeders cross various mixed jags or other morphs into bredli ect and
the offspring are all kinds of mut mixes. I dont think most people have any problems with this.
Its just when sellers who misrepresent the offspring as pure this or that when they are all kinds of carpet species mixes.
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Re: Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Postby Bushviper » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:51 am

I have seen some axanthic carpets on the net. Has anyone combined them with the albinos and produced snow carpets yet?

Are the black and white (I think they are Julaten jungles) jungle carpets just line bred or are they axanthic?
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Re: Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Postby Aaxel » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:23 pm

Those snakes are stunning!

One day when I'm big, I'll keep a carpet. No doubt about it. :D
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Re: Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Postby Mehelya » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:20 pm

Thanks Don. Let me rather simplify my question, as I'm probably putting it wrong. What defines a morph in Carpets? For example, your Granite... Is it just a genetic color trait in a specific species of Carpet that is dominant/recessive that you have proven out, or is it a bit of mixing and matching? So sorry about the mixup in questions!
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Re: Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Postby Mitton » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:22 pm

Mehelya, a Carpet morph is when mixing 2 of the same sub-species together and then there are some different looking babies, it is a genetic trait that gives different colors of the specific snakes. Mixing 2 different sub-species (like Jungle x Coastal) together does not give you morphs, it gives you low value ugly snakes.
A Granite is a morph that was produced by breeding 2 pure Irian Jayas together. It had to be proven as a morph and only when the babies were bred back to the parents did it prove that this morph was recessive.
The first Jaguars that were produced, it was when 2 normal Coastals were bred together. When these Jags were bred it was proven that it is a co-dom morph because there is a super form when you breed 2 together.
One of the best morphs to me is the Zebra, it is a morph from a Jungle and is also co-dom and gives a very nice Super Zebra.
People started breeding the different morphs together to give some nice combos, like the Albino-Jag, Granite-Jag or Zebra-Jag, basically, the Jag is a great base morph to produce some stunning combos.
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Re: Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Postby don patterson » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:22 pm

No probs Mitton, well put. Saves me more typing :)
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Re: Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Postby Mehelya » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:57 pm

Thanks, Mitton! Understand fully now! :D

Have to say sorry, Don, didn't mean to go off on a tangent with your post! Those are still stunning snakes! Now, I also understand how they were "created"! Time, patience, and some really awesome animals! Don, your work is brilliant!
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Re: Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Postby Carpetpythons » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:07 pm

Breeding two subspecies gives you low value ugly snakes? I do not agree with you on that one Mitton. I am hatching sub-specific albino hybrids that craps all over any pure albino Darwin that I have ever hatched. I will start my own thread when they have shed their skins. I will also do comparison shots to show you guys how different the colours are to standard plain albino Darwins. I know we are talking albinos here but they are still sub-specific hybrids!
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Re: Some 2011 Carpet Morphs

Postby don patterson » Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:49 am

Hey Carpetpythons, in this situation i agree with you!
I have some amazing Irian x Darwin cross's 66% het albino's.
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