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Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

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Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

Postby Serpent » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:12 pm

I have a yearling eyelash viper that has developed massive swelling on its face in front of the eye, her pit is double its size and the fang area of her head/roof of mouth. It seems to be a swelling of the face rather than in the mouth.There seems to be a slight discharge coming from the pit. The swelling is a few days old.

The snake has not been fed lately so I doubt it's been caused from a scratch or a bite from a mouse, or mouth rot.
The snake is alert and well it this point, and would probably eat if I tried her, thought I would wait for the infection to subside.

Any good advice would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.
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Re: Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

Postby Jamster » Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:06 pm

Our WDB female had the same issue recently. We have had this with a cobra about 2 years ago aswell. We made a small incision in between the scales over the affected area and allowed the "gunk" to escape. Followed by a thorough cleaning with a dilute f10 solution. Both of the procedures were 100% successful with no scaring or reccurent swelling. I am not recommending that you do this as it requires you getting dangerously close to the sharp end of the snake, just sharing my experiences.
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Re: Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

Postby Bushviper » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:01 pm

I would suggest that a vet try to drain the swollen area and send off a sample to determine which antibiotics would work the best.
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Re: Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

Postby jaroo » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:26 pm

Could it be due to a damaged or erupting fang, like a tooth root abcess?
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Re: Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

Postby Serpent » Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:18 pm

Thanks for your comments. There has been no change so I am going to take it to a vet. That is my most aggressive snake, border line insane actually, so this should be a fun outing.
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Re: Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

Postby Serpent » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:34 pm

Took the snake to the vet, he gassed it to put it under. It had an abscess / infected venom gland, he managed to squeeze out quite a bit of pus, which came out of the eye socket. The snake looks a bit better already, with the swelling down. It's on a antibiotic, so we now we will have to wait and see if it pulls through.
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Re: Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

Postby jaroo » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:57 pm

You know what antibiotic he put it on and what dose?
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Re: Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

Postby Snakesitter » Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:18 am

Glad to hear it was treatable, and fingers crossed for a good and quick result!
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Re: Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

Postby Creator » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:18 am

What vet did you use?
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Re: Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

Postby Serpent » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:23 pm

The antibiotic was Amikacin, which is the second time I have used this antibiotic.
The dosage 0.05 Amikacin into 0.9ml saline, and then 0.025ml is the amount of mixture I am to administer on Sunday again... You will have to do the math.
The snake still seems fine, so far so good.
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Re: Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

Postby jaroo » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:11 am

Okay thanks! Yes amikacin is an initial dose of 5mg/kg and then 2,5mg/kg every 3 days. So the saline is just to dilute it to get to usable strengths
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Re: Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

Postby it_bit_me » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:50 am

That is some great help you are giving it . Well done man
If I'm gonna be an old, lonely man, I'm gonna need a thing, you know, a hook, like that guy on the subway who eats his own face. So I figure I'll be Crazy Man with a Snake, y'know. Crazy Snake Man. And I'll get more snakes, call them my babies, kids won't walk past my place, they will run. "Run away from Crazy Snake Man, " they'll shout!”
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Re: Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

Postby it_bit_me » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:13 pm

Do you have some pics of how it started out ??
If I'm gonna be an old, lonely man, I'm gonna need a thing, you know, a hook, like that guy on the subway who eats his own face. So I figure I'll be Crazy Man with a Snake, y'know. Crazy Snake Man. And I'll get more snakes, call them my babies, kids won't walk past my place, they will run. "Run away from Crazy Snake Man, " they'll shout!”
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Re: Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

Postby Serpent » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:12 pm

it_bit_me wrote:Do you have some pics of how it started out ??


Sorry bud. The first pics I took were the day after we squeezed all the pus out. I wish I had as it was really swollen!

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This is him today.

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Looking like he is on the road to recovery now, will try and feed him next week.

Thanks for looking.
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Re: Eyelash Viper - Swollen mouth and pit.

Postby Westley Price » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:54 pm

Well done man.

He look so much better on the last pic.

Did the vet make an incision before squeezing the gunk out? Looks like the snake sustained quite a bit of damage as if the vet simply squeezed it hoped it popped out somewhere. An incision might have been a better idea.

Anyway, I'm no vet and clearly it turned out well, so that's all that matters.
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