South Africa's deadliest snakes

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South Africa's deadliest snakes

Postby Bushbaby » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:04 pm

What, in your opinion is Africa's deadliest snakes? Give motivation for your answer.

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Postby snake-5 » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:30 pm

Africas must be the saw scaled viper or puffy as they are both ambush predators and are both found near or even in places where people live.Although the saw scale viper accounts for the most bites it is not found in southern africa.So i would say the puffy as it is found in most places throught africa.
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Postby Bushbaby » Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:44 pm

Oops!! I meant South African, not African (as in the heading). :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Postby snake-5 » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:59 pm

Oh thats much easier i reacon its a puffy then.Range venom toxisity all point to it.
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Postby Stefan » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:02 pm

black mamba its not thye most common snake but its agressive it has a nasty neurotoxic venom.
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Postby Sean » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:51 pm

puffie, kills the most ppl in south africa
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Postby Neboo » Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:08 am

The puffy kills the most people in SA I believe
But I think the Black mamba has the most toxic venom
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Postby Sand Adder » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:33 pm

I think the Black Mamba :!: Very quick and a nasty little bugger :-P
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Postby Rabies » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:32 pm

"Deadliest" as in human :-? Puff Adders are responsible for the most severe bites so most probably have the highest figures. Deadliest as in venom would most probably be the black mamba, even though bites by these are rare, fatalities tend to be high, so if you were to find out the number of bites by Puff's and Black mamba's and then the % of deaths there's a good possibility that Black M.. come out tops. :shock: But I'm just an awkward bugger and have possibly heated up the debate :oops:
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Postby froot » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:42 pm

No, there's a good point. Deadly as per statistics, or as an individual encounter however frequent it may occur?

2 totally different aspects!
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Postby Bushviper » Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:11 pm

Rabies, no need to apologise thats why it is in the debate forum.

I gotta agree with you about the mamba but I am not so sure puff adders bite the most people.

Often the snake is not seen by the victim and Spitting cobras also have cytotoxic venoms so possibly the bites are attributed to puff adders when the culprit is a spitter.

If the swelling does not have corresponding slight bleeding under the skin then it is a spitter bite.
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Postby Rabies » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:50 pm

Hi Bushviper
very true about spitters, statisticly speaking it is most probably the Puff but N. nigricollis and N. mossambica are not too far behind. Then again as you mentioned the bites can initialy be very simular and too much emphasis is pointed to the Puffy due to its reputation so the tables could be evenly matched.

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Postby Bushbaby » Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:54 pm

Okay, well a Puff Adder might be responsible for most bites, or so it is believed. I would say the deadliest is obviously a Black Mamba, although they do not seem to come into contact with a lot of people, I would rather say that a Cape Cobra and Snouted Cobra should be at the top of that list.
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Postby froot » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:07 pm

Snouted cobras are not that difficult to work with.
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Postby Bushbaby » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:40 pm

froot wrote:Snouted cobras are not that difficult to work with.


I know, but for people who don't know how to work with them... i.e. general public??
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