WA Forest cobras making babies (Naja melanoleuca)

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WA Forest cobras making babies (Naja melanoleuca)

Postby Eyelash » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:53 am

Awesome to see these at it again ! I'm holding thumbs for another good clutch this year... :D

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Re: WA Forest cobras making babies (Naja melanoleuca)

Postby Ruan Stander » Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:31 pm

Nice !
Do they require permits ?
The fact that they are West African makes them theoretically exotic, but they are still the same species ?
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Re: WA Forest cobras making babies (Naja melanoleuca)

Postby vuduman » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:25 pm

Well done mate.
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Re: WA Forest cobras making babies (Naja melanoleuca)

Postby Kakibos » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:42 pm

predator678 wrote:Do they require permits ?


Good question, I also wonder, I think if the scientific name is the same they will need a permit.
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Re: WA Forest cobras making babies (Naja melanoleuca)

Postby Westley Price » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:23 am

The cobras have been confusing me quite a lot lately. In a recent publication (see link below) the cobras of the World were divided into four subgenera.

In the abstract, the authors made this little comment:

We recommend the subgenus rank as a way of maximising the phylogenetic information content of classifications while retaining nomenclatural stability.


So does that mean the new data shows they should actually be different genera, but just for the sake of "nomenclatural stability" they are simply given distinctions by subgenera?

And if we write/speak about the binomial names, do we use the genus name or subgenus name?

http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2009/f/zt02236p036.pdf

Just for the guys wanting a summary of the new subgenera, diagram taken from "In praise of subgenera: taxonomic status of cobras of the genus Naja Laurenti
(Serpentes: Elapidae)"
by Van Wallach, Wolfgang Wuster and Donald Broadley

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Re: WA Forest cobras making babies (Naja melanoleuca)

Postby Ruan Stander » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:00 pm

If it meets the criteria for full species status then just award it. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a distinct species, just like Bitis rhinoceros and Bitis gabonica. Probably a similar situation here.
If not, I'm sure they would need permits yes, as it's about the species, not the locality of it.
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Re: WA Forest cobras making babies (Naja melanoleuca)

Postby Eyelash » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:27 am

The first girl is close to laying ! Can't wait !

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Re: WA Forest cobras making babies (Naja melanoleuca)

Postby Ruan Stander » Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:59 am

Exciting times :D
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