confused about permits.

confused about permits.

Postby confused » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:15 pm

hello sorry to do this to you guys again. I lived in the northern cape where I never needed a permit for my ball python because according to south African law a exotic reptile I did not need a permit. now living in eastern cape the eastern cape government decides that I need a permit which I only found out about a week ago. so I have been living here illegally for the last 8 months. please can someone help me. how do I go about getting a permit for a snake I have owned for 5 years. and how can provincial government have there own laws against national government? please help I don't want to break the law I would love to have my snake legally. thanx :smt012 :smt017 :smt017
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Re: confused about permits.

Postby it_bit_me » Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:01 pm

You made an mistake. The Northern Cape is the strictest region and requires permits for all reptiles.
Where does the snake come from originally?
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Re: confused about permits.

Postby confused » Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:06 pm

it comes from Kimberly northen cape and there you purchase them no permits involved!
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Re: confused about permits.

Postby Mr Venom » Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:02 pm

You need permits for all Snakes in every Cape province, exotic and indigenous.

The person you bought the Python from in the Northern cape must have lied to you if he/she said that you do not need a permit for Exotics in the province.

Each province has their permit system, Capes require permits for both exotic and indigenous, Gauteng for only Indigenous and Kzn does not need any permits except for Threatened or Protected Species (TOPS).

As for how you are going to get your snake a permit I do not think you can because no export/import/transport permits were organized.
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Re: confused about permits.

Postby it_bit_me » Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:04 pm

Do an search of the forum so you can catchup on the laws.

About getting permits.
If you declare that you and the previous owner had no permits then it will be an fine for both.
There is an chance that after the fine you will get some help with the keeping permit but it could also turn out that the animal is put down.

Do the catchup and then ask about stuff you don't understand.
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Re: confused about permits.

Postby Mr Venom » Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:10 pm

I agree with It_Bit_Me, there are a few people on the forum from the Eastern cape that can explain everything you need to know.
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Re: confused about permits.

Postby Naneek » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:23 pm

I applied for my permit (for a corn snake) on Monday 24th June.. Could take up to 3 weeks they said. I hate waiting lol.
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Re: confused about permits.

Postby it_bit_me » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:53 am

Naneek wrote:I applied for my permit (for a corn snake) on Monday 24th June.. Could take up to 3 weeks they said. I hate waiting lol.

You can expedite the permit by paying double. It will then take 3 days.
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Re: confused about permits.

Postby michael » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:00 am

@ confused
Where are you currently living in the Eastern Cape? The general rule is to approach the biodiversity permit section. Explain that you were informed you did not need a permit for the snake and subsequently found out you did. It’s more than likely that you will get a warning and be issued the permit. I highly doubt you will get any fines, just approach the right section in the deparment.
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Re: confused about permits.

Postby Bushviper » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:42 am

The alternative is make the snake "disappear". Apply to import it from outside the province. Once the permit has been issued then the snake re-appears. So much easier and you dont have the possibility that they could fine you and confiscate your snake.
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Re: confused about permits.

Postby Natcon NC » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:43 am

@confused it is correct as It_Bit_Me said you did need a permit to keep it in the Northern Cape. But lets see if we can help you out of this problem. Who did you buy the snake from and when. If you do not want to name names on the forum you can send me a email at lsmuller@ncpg.gov.za and I can contact you so we can talk about the matter.
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Re: confused about permits.

Postby Naneek » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:20 pm

it_bit_me wrote:
Naneek wrote:I applied for my permit (for a corn snake) on Monday 24th June.. Could take up to 3 weeks they said. I hate waiting lol.

You can expedite the permit by paying double. It will then take 3 days.

Thank you. Will keep that in mind
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Re: confused about permits.

Postby Shaun » Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:51 pm

Bushviper wrote:The alternative is make the snake "disappear". Apply to import it from outside the province. Once the permit has been issued then the snake re-appears. So much easier and you dont have the possibility that they could fine you and confiscate your snake.


I agree with Arno. This avoids confiscation and a fine.
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Re: confused about permits.

Postby it_bit_me » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:10 pm

Shaun wrote:
Bushviper wrote:The alternative is make the snake "disappear". Apply to import it from outside the province. Once the permit has been issued then the snake re-appears. So much easier and you dont have the possibility that they could fine you and confiscate your snake.


I agree with Arno. This avoids confiscation and a fine.


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Re: confused about permits.

Postby confused » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:40 pm

Just a bit of feed back I finally got my ball python's permit today so she is legal. Whoooopi :-D :-D
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