Eclipse ball python, anyone feel like guessing?

Eclipse ball python, anyone feel like guessing?

Postby krah » Mon Nov 17, 2014 11:23 pm

So while scouring the internet for piebald prices and interesting morphs, a photo of this Eclipse ball python popped up. I eventually found out that its a Mike Willbanks creation (Pythonregius.com) but he's keeping the genes a massive secret :smt017 (which I don't blame him for).

Here's a link to the page with a few images if anyone feels like having a look and a guess :-D

http://pythonregius.com/eclipseballpythons.aspx

It reminds me of a pastel pied, so I am guessing there's pastel and maybe fire or vanilla in it :?: but I'm a rookie haha. whatever it is, it looks awesome.
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Re: Eclipse ball python, anyone feel like guessing?

Postby Michael Jones » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:01 am

To my knowledge, the "Eclipse" obviously is combo animal. However, the main ingredient is his "atomic" gene which is what causes all the distortion and paradoxing in the animals pattern. Cool snake nonetheless.
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Re: Eclipse ball python, anyone feel like guessing?

Postby krah » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:16 am

I forgot to add that his website says it's a 3 or 4 gene animal, sorry. Just googled Atomic ball python and I agree with you Micheal, got to be an Atomic combo of some kind.
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Re: Eclipse ball python, anyone feel like guessing?

Postby krah » Tue Nov 18, 2014 12:34 am

Ok so I posted too soon it seems, found an American forum where Mike Willbanks reveals it to be an Atomic,Fire,Sugar combo.
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Re: Eclipse ball python, anyone feel like guessing?

Postby Westley Price » Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:51 am

I often wonder how some of the larger breeders know what genes are in a specific animal.

When one starts working with so many genes that youa re looking at 4 gene combos, surely there are some hets involved and the results are far from set in stone.

It must be tough to determine the presence of some of the more subtle genes in an already complicated animal.
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Re: Eclipse ball python, anyone feel like guessing?

Postby Michael Jones » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:22 am

I think when it comes to the 5 or 6 gene animals, a lot of the time, they are educated guesses or they must be proved out. I.E bred to a normal. I know some guys also determine the differences by comparing clutch mates.
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