Stargazing?

Stargazing?

Postby Wolf777 » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:47 pm

Hi guys I found a housie that looks like it has got the "stargazing syndrome". I would like to know a little more about this, is it genetic, any info for that matter as there are many contradicting sites on the web. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Stargazing?

Postby Bernice » Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:57 pm

From what I understand stargazing is associated with a sever neurological disorder of some sort... i.e. he got hit on the head, or has a massive infection... either way there is usually not much hope, and he will need serious medical attention...

I do however speak under correction... Please other members confirm or deny?
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Re: Stargazing?

Postby JPWittstock » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:24 pm

Is it wild caught or a captive specimen?

Captive specimens that have been in a small enclosure for too long will exhibit "stargazing" behaviour.
This will however resolve itself over a period of a few months when placed into a more appropriate sized cage. Otherwise if is a WC specimen then keep an eye on it for any signs of injury or illness.

ps If WC keep it away from your main collection as a precaution.

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Re: Stargazing?

Postby LeglessDragon » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:13 pm

Stargazing can be caused by several things:

Neurological disorders - These are anything from a head injury to infection on the brain
Toxic shock - Poisons infecting it's system e.g. doom etc Will also have uncontrolled muscle tone (fall over, or unable to right itself)
Lung infections - Sometimes a lung infection can cause them to 'stargaze' in order to breath.

In the case of infections etc I would really keep it away from anyother snakes. The best is a vet to diagnose exactly why it is stargazing.
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Re: Stargazing?

Postby Wolf777 » Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:47 pm

It's a wild caught specimen, it doesn't seem injured but it looks almost as if it has epilepsy lol, is there anything I can do for it?
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Re: Stargazing?

Postby LeglessDragon » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:19 am

Take it to a reptile vet that can do the correct diagnoses. That is the only option.
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Re: Stargazing?

Postby Groenslang » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:20 am

ummm, dumb question, but im keen to learn so im asking anyway...

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Re: Stargazing?

Postby LeglessDragon » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:26 am

It is when a snake 'arches' it's neck (and 1/4 and more of it's body) and looks straight up with the head (nose pointing to the sky) and slightly backwards. As if it is trying to 'look at the stars above'.
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Re: Stargazing?

Postby Groenslang » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:17 am

oh... thanx!
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Re: Stargazing?

Postby martinshaun » Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:01 am

had this happen with a pair of albino pacific gopher snakes I purchased, they got held up in shipping and spent 2 days in extreme temps with no water. they survived but never stopped " gazing " would eat with no problems and I kept them for a year before giving them away.
Don't know if its the same issue but definately a neurological thing.
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Re: Stargazing?

Postby Wolf777 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:39 pm

Assist fed it and it ate, but unfortunately it died the next day.
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Re: Stargazing?

Postby Bushviper » Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:35 am

Wolf I think the chances are pretty good that it had head trauma. Usually the loopy behaviour is from some damage before you caught it.
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Re: Stargazing?

Postby gaboon69 » Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:57 pm

Sorry to hear man. More often than not these reports of stargazing turn out to be the flue. The animal raises its head for the mucus to withdraw as to breathe easier and the owner often thinks its a neorologoal disease of sorts. Not all fluish animals show clear signs of puffy throats or bubbly saliva.
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Re: Stargazing?

Postby Wolf777 » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:41 pm

Thanks for the input gaboon, but I still think it was neurological because this snake was acting very weird, it wasn't just gazing up, it was also moving in a "corkskrew" motion, lying upside down etc. Wether it was from trauma or a disease it's still a pitty though, I really thought it would make it.
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