Albino brown House Snake

Albino brown House Snake

Postby Fooble » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:16 pm

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Re: Albino brown House Snake

Postby Cradle of life » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:10 pm

Fooble please do not take me wrong, but i do not see any albino in that snake :oops: How do you guys work out the albino thing?

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Re: Albino brown House Snake

Postby Fooble » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:55 pm

Cradle of life , you do get T- as well as T + albinos
have a look at the photos i posted in the "group" shots to see the difference.
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Re: Albino brown House Snake

Postby Snakes4Africa » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:41 am

That is most certainly an albino. Normally House snakes are brown.
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Re: Albino brown House Snake

Postby snakemanjayd » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:26 am

Ha ha, this one is brown too...
I see what you guys mean though.
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Re: Albino brown House Snake

Postby Cradle of life » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:29 am

Snakes4Africa wrote:That is most certainly an albino. Normally House snakes are brown.

:shock: Most of the house snakes from hoedspruit are more red than brown, and lots are very light like the pics above. If it is only about colour then i have my reservations :!:
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Re: Albino brown House Snake

Postby hunter1 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:21 am

cradle of life please post a pic of an albino house snake?
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Re: Albino brown House Snake

Postby Westley Price » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:37 am

This is certainly an amelanistic BHS (I don't really like the term albino, not sure why).

On this note, why does we, as South Africans, not distinguish between the 2 different type of albinos when selling?

So far I've only seen albinos for sale, and not T+ or T- amelanistics.
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Re: Albino brown House Snake

Postby TonyK » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:43 am

Cradle of life wrote:
Snakes4Africa wrote:That is most certainly an albino. Normally House snakes are brown.

:shock: If it is only about colour then i have my reservations :!:

Cradle of life,I am with you on this one.A local pet shop in Cape Town has some "Albino house snakes" for sale at R900 each .I was so excited when I saw the lable but man was I disapointed when I saw the snakes.At best they should be called light colour phase or maybe even blonde phase.True albinos should have red eyes.
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Re: Albino brown House Snake

Postby Warren Klein » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:54 am

Firstly that is a gorgeous house snake! According to my understanding of a true albino, they have to be lacking black pigment and as a result the blood in their eyes stands out giving the appearance of red eyes which is not the case with the specimen in question above.


you do get T- as well as T + albinos


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Re: Albino brown House Snake

Postby Cradle of life » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:03 am

Herphabitat wrote:Firstly that is a gorgeous house snake! According to my understanding of a true albino, they have to be lacking black pigment and as a result the blood in their eyes stands out giving the appearance of red eyes which is not the case with the specimen in question above.


you do get T- as well as T + albinos


Please can you explain Fooble?

Yip and that is exactly my understanding of albinos! Hence my question in the beginning. I have seen so many so called albino BHS, but not one that has convinced me, not even Rowans one he had in the early 1990's.
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Re: Albino brown House Snake

Postby Snakes4Africa » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:52 pm

Just because you don't understand genetics does mean it is not an albino.
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Re: Albino brown House Snake

Postby steve » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:06 pm

Those photo's are taken in very low light, i think with a flash the orange colour will stand out a lot more, the contrast between this animal and a normal phase snake will be stark and easily distinguishable.
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Re: Albino brown House Snake

Postby Fooble » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:46 pm

Again i didn't post these photo's to ask about being an albino.

This evening i saw post Types of Albino ones with the red pupil and the others like pictured both look identical in colour all is different is the pupil colouration.

If SnakesforAfrica confirms it as albino i sure would not argue that.
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Re: Albino brown House Snake

Postby BushSnake » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:50 pm

Fooble and S4A, I definitely don't want to start an argument here and I admit that I know almost NOTHING about genetics, but this is exactly why I'm interested in this thread. I'm open for any corrections, and I'm sure the other people would also accept a good description of why this is an albino (or why not). I too would not have called this an albino, as I've seen a number of specimens that closely resemble this one and since they were all wild caught I never considered them to be a freak of nature.

The problem I have is that what everyone calls albinos may not (or may indeed) be albinos, but because the term "albino" automatically tripples the price tag every light coloured snake is called one. So can someone please give me a good description of why these snakes are albinos and not just light coloured BHS that have been bred to be even lighter than the normal light ones?

So to simplify it: if you found a wild snake looking like this in Putsonderwater in the Northern Cape, would you have called it an albino or just a light colour morph?
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