Suphan

Suphan

Postby dendroaspis » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:55 pm

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Re: Suphan

Postby Nivea » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:01 pm

Real nice snake. I have to get some of those one day.
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Re: Suphan

Postby dendroaspis » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:14 pm

Thank you :)
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Re: Suphan

Postby fredsmith » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:19 pm

Wow!! Thats very pretty indeed!

I'm by no means a fundi with regards to cobra's, could you enlighten me with regards to which one this is?
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Re: Suphan

Postby fredsmith » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:22 pm

Naja k. suphanensis? - Googled Suphan... Asiatic cobra.
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Re: Suphan

Postby dendroaspis » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:30 pm

That be it :)
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Re: Suphan

Postby fredsmith » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:04 pm

Eish... when I start answering my own questions I think it's a sign I've reached my RDA of caffeine...
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Re: Suphan

Postby deleray » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:07 pm

fredsmith wrote:Naja k. suphanensis? - Googled Suphan... Asiatic cobra.


Is that correct? I thought it was no longer considered a sub-species and is now just a colour variation of N. Kaouthia?
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Re: Suphan

Postby WW » Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:07 pm

deleray wrote:
fredsmith wrote:Naja k. suphanensis? - Googled Suphan... Asiatic cobra.


Is that correct? I thought it was no longer considered a sub-species and is now just a colour variation of N. Kaouthia?


It is just a colour form of N. kaouthia. The genetics of this are not entirely clear, i.e., whether it is a kind of single locus mutation (like leucism, albinism etc.), or whether it is a regional colour phase. Certainly, most of the specimens known seem to originate from a fairly well-defined region of C. Thailand, e.g., Suphan Buri Province, after which the form is named (BTW the pronounciation is Soo-pahn, not Suh-fan - just like Phuket is pronoucend Poo-ket, not " :smt013 it", much to many people's disappointment) and the adjoining provinces or Ratchaburi, Ang Thong and Ayutthaya. I have also seen specimens that looked very intermediate between Suphans and ordinary N. kaouthia (e.g., cream-coloured, but with clear hood mark), but breeders seem to think that they come out like leucistics from crosses between normal and "Suphan" parents - I havebeen shown normal kaouthia and supposed "Suphans" that were siblings.

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Re: Suphan

Postby Bushviper » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:46 pm

I was told about blue eyed albinos that were in the zoo in Singapore. I am assuming that this is actually what they are referring to. This goes back many years when all the cobras were just subspecies of Naja naja. I remember seeing them in Germany where they were bred (along with albinos) as two different colours of albino which I was informed were incompatable with each other.
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Re: Suphan

Postby Loslappie » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:07 am

Nice ones Dendroaspis
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