Little hitch hiker

Little hitch hiker

Postby Jamster » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:10 pm

hey guys and gals.

I got a little Bibrons thick toed gecko that hitched a ride in a families trailer all the way from the Orange river. Very cute little one. Sending him off soon.

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Re: Little hitch hiker

Postby jka » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:15 pm

Vine snakes love these guys!
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Re: Little hitch hiker

Postby Ruan Stander » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:12 pm

Sending off as in setting free or selling? Looks like it could possibly be Pachydactylus turneri.
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Re: Little hitch hiker

Postby Jamster » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:27 pm

Sending off as in sending him back to the free state, a friend will be driving through there so hes just going to take it with him (they dont occur naturally here):) I thought that it is far more likely that it is a Bibrons rather than a Turners? But then again its all down to genetics.
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1.1-burmese pythons
5.5-brown house snakes
1.0-taiwanese ratsnake
3.8-BCI
1.1-corn snakes
1.2-rhombic skaapstekers
1.0-yellow rat snake
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Re: Little hitch hiker

Postby Ruan Stander » Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:44 pm

Awesome, good on you man :) not necessarily, I remember reading somewhere that the two can be distinguished by the structure, organization or count of some of the scales on the head if I am not mistaken. Also, just from what I've seen is that P. turneri tends to have a thinner tail and a less triangular and robust head with less prominent tubercles over all.
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Re: Little hitch hiker

Postby Jamster » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:23 am

Remember that this guy is still very small :D only about four or five cm. I checked distributions and turneri dont occur that far south :)
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1.2-rhombic skaapstekers
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Re: Little hitch hiker

Postby Ruan Stander » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:27 pm

bibronii it is then :-)
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Re: Little hitch hiker

Postby Chris3004 » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:20 am

Chondrodactylus bibronii
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Re: Little hitch hiker

Postby Ruan Stander » Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:19 pm

Chris,

When did this change happen ? Was Chondrodactylus an existing genus that bibronii was transferred to, or was it created for it ? Which other species were affected ? Or was the genus simply renamed ?

I remember reading that before, and thought that it was now back to Pachydactylus ?

I look forward to hearing more.
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Re: Little hitch hiker

Postby Chris3004 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:53 pm

Hi,

It was part of a major revision of the geckos in Pachydactylus (sensu lato) by Bauer and Lamb. It was published in 2005 and is very well accepted. It affected Pachydactylus, Chondrodactylus, Colopus, Elasmodactylus, Kaokogecko, Palamtogecko and I may well have forgotten something ;)

However, I expect some more changes within Chondrodactylus, but from what I've heard data isn't consistent yet.

If you want to learn more: Bauer, A. & T. Lamb (2005): Phylogenetic Relationships of southern African geckos in the Pachydactylus Group (Squamata: Gekkonidae). - Afr. J. Herp. 54 (2): 105-130.

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Re: Little hitch hiker

Postby Ruan Stander » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:01 pm

Thank you very much. Where might I be able to get hold of this ?
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