"Pond" in Brown Water Snake enclosure

"Pond" in Brown Water Snake enclosure

Postby Haywire » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:54 am

Hi All,

I am new to the forum and this is my first post.

I've had a common brown for about 2 years now, which has been quite content with a fairly large water bowl since I've had it, living in an enclosure L 1.9 X W 0.5 X H 0.5.

I would like to build a pond to install in the enlosure to put some small fish or tadpoles in for it's night hunting. The current idea is to use a foam filler, cut a mould from there and cover in fibreglass, so as to keep it light weight. Also, while drying, I'd like to cover the whole pond with sand to make it seem more natural.

My question is, is fibreglass a good material to use for this purpose? The snake will be feeding and drinking from this pond, so I don't want any negative impact on the snake or the fish/tadpoles inhabiting the pond. Can any chemicals from the fibreglass contaminate the water?

Also, if there are any other ideas on building the pond, taking into account that I'd like to keep it as light as possible, it will be much appreciated.

I look forward to the responses.

Thanks.
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Re: "Pond" in Brown Water Snake enclosure

Postby Serpent » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:04 pm

This post reminds me of my youth! I had a brown water snake in a fish tank, 2/3 substrate and 1/3 water feature. I just took a strip of glass and marine glued on the bottom of the cage to separate "water from land". It seemed like a great idea to begin with, however the water kept getting dirty and the substate too wet and mouldy.

Best of luck, post some pics of the finnished enclosure!
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Re: "Pond" in Brown Water Snake enclosure

Postby Bushviper » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:31 pm

Fibreglass is fine if it is allowed to cure. That can take weeks. You biggest problem is cleaning the pond. This just seems to be more effort than what it is worth. A decent pond will weight 30 kilos at least and so getting it out when it is dirty is going to be a mission. Modify a stand with a 5 or 10 litre plastic water bowl in it and put the fish and tadpoles in there. Build a covering around the stand like a hill effect and the snake can still get to the water.
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Re: "Pond" in Brown Water Snake enclosure

Postby Haywire » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:37 pm

I'm keeping mine in a "cabinet" style enclosure with sliding glass front. I want to make the pond mobile, for easier cleaning.

What substrate did you use with your brown Serpent? I'm using small stones for about a third of the enclosure, namib desert sand for another third and carpet on the other, with many natural hides that I randomly collect around dams and rivers (soaking in boiling water before using it) as he does not come out often during the day and is very shy.

Your idea seems fair BV, will see what I can come up with. I've checked a few video's on youtube of guys building waterfalls from polystyrene, but it seems to be a huge process, that's why I want to opt for the fibreglass.

It seems like it's still gonna be quite a while before I'm done with the pond, will def post some pics if I succeed.
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Re: "Pond" in Brown Water Snake enclosure

Postby Brussel » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:13 pm

I see another problem. I had a brown water snake, caught 20 or tadpoles opened the cage the next morning and there was a seriously overfed snake :)
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Re: "Pond" in Brown Water Snake enclosure

Postby Haywire » Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:12 pm

Lol, I'll be sure to regulate the tadpole intake, hahaha
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Re: "Pond" in Brown Water Snake enclosure

Postby NewtTZ » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:03 pm

I would use a clear plastic tub and bury it in the substrate or surround it with rocks or large pebbles. This will make an easy to clean and natural looking pond. Adding a water fall will make for a cool extra feature.
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Re: "Pond" in Brown Water Snake enclosure

Postby Haywire » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:43 pm

I've done that in the mean time, I'll maybe use the current plastic tub and build around it with the foam, then give it a paint to make it look natural, with a small pebble substrate inside the tub.
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Re: "Pond" in Brown Water Snake enclosure

Postby dobby7 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:01 pm

Now that will look good. Try make a rocky outcrop with the water in the centre. It will prevent the substrate from falling in.
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Re: "Pond" in Brown Water Snake enclosure

Postby Haywire » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:44 pm

I'll try to start this weekend and post pics when it's done.
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Re: "Pond" in Brown Water Snake enclosure

Postby dobby7 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:54 am

Cool man. Good luck and enjoy.
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Re: "Pond" in Brown Water Snake enclosure

Postby dgh » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:49 am

What size pond do you plan to make?
Why not do as Serpent suggested and glue glass to the tank to make a permanent pond, but then drill a drain hole in the bottom for ease of cleaning?
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Re: "Pond" in Brown Water Snake enclosure

Postby Haywire » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:25 am

The vivarium is mostly made of wood, with glass sliding doors, else that would have been my first option. That's why I need it to be mobile, for ease of cleansing.
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