Dendroaspis_bastian wrote:
meaning for an elapid, the venom is slow to act. .
I don't have time to do extensive research tonight( because it's New Years)...but I found this in about 2 minutes
http://www.slideshare.net/Tshering_Namg ... managementCobra versus krait bites"Patients with cobra( Naja naja) bite presented with
early neuroparalysis and
rapid onset of respiratory failure (
15 minutes to 7 hours, mean 96.4
minutes). Recovery in these patients was also fast (1–24 hours,
mean 4.7 hours).
Patients with krait bite presented with late neuroparalysis and
delayed onset of respiratory failure (30 minutes to 16 hours, mean
246.5 minutes). They did not show marked improvement with
neostigmine and atropine. Recovery of neuroparalysis and respiratory
failure in krait bite was delayed (4–72 hours, mean 22.9
hours). Respiratory paralysis lasted less than 12 hours in 3
patients, between 12 and 24 hours in 4 patients and 36, 42 and 43
hours in 1 patient each."
http://www.nmji.in/archives/Volume_18-2 ... 9-75_3.pdfSo according to you 10 minutes has NEVER happened...Then I do research for 5 minutes and in the first study I find I already find a case of 15 minute paralysis...And of course you can't get out of your dumb claim that cobras have slow acting venom...when virtually every study indicates they( Naja naja) have a very fast acting venom.
Whats interesting in this study is that Naja naja bites actually cause worse symptoms and a higher rate of respiratory failure than the Common Krait...When in almost all the other studies I have read....the Krait cause higher rates of respiratory failure. Maybe just a fluke study?
Complications of snake-bite
"Table I lists the complications of snake-bite observed in this study.
Respiratory paralysis was the commonest acute complication. It
was seen in 50.7% of patients bitten by a cobra and in 31% of those
bitten by a krait. Following a Russell viper bite, shock developed
in 35% of patients, bradycardia in 17.5% and acute renal failure
in 30%. Anaphylaxis due to ASV occurred in 11.7% of the patients
to whom ASV was administered. The commonest delayed complication
was a non-healing ulcer at the site of the bite. This was seen
in 35.2% of the victims of cobra bite and in 15% of those bitten by
a Russell viper."
http://www.nmji.in/archives/Volume_18-2 ... 9-75_3.pdfAnother interesting thing is that the saw scaled viper in this particular region of west India does not really cause medically significant bites...Most bites by the saw scaled in this study were fairly mild.