problematic hatchlings

problematic hatchlings

Postby Heinz09 » Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:37 pm

I had a few corns, wonderful creatures.

Now most of them have eaten, but I have 4 problem eaters, since they were hatched on the 1st of January they have not yet eaten.

Is this normal? Is this okay? Should I wait a while?

Or are there other measures I should consider?
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Re: problematic hatchlings

Postby RAGE » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:29 pm

Some hatchlings can be fussy eaters. Next time you get pinkies for them, brain them. I use a scalpel and just split their heads open. This works 95% of the time with problem corns for me. HOpe it helps.
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Re: problematic hatchlings

Postby jka » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:32 pm

Like Rage said some hatchlings can be fussy eaters, put the snakes in a small tub with a brained pinkie overnight, the following morning you should have a corn with a nice bulge.
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Re: problematic hatchlings

Postby Heinz09 » Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:19 am

Okay I have heard of braining a pinky etc. How exactly do you brain them?
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Re: problematic hatchlings

Postby Bushviper » Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:24 am

Heinz you take a DEAD pinky and slit the head and nose open exposing the brain and some blood. This often stimulates the snakes to feed.
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Re: problematic hatchlings

Postby Heinz09 » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:27 pm

Okay...

1. Got a dead pinky
2. thawed it...
3. Did the cut...
4. Put my boa and pinky in together.
5. The pinky is still there and the snake not bothered :(

Now what?

I am running out of options.
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Re: problematic hatchlings

Postby Corncrazy » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:01 am

Heinz, when i use to have problem feeders, i some times, use to take ''Dead" new born pinks, put them between 2 pieces of paper and squash the pink, then throw the pink in with the snake and leave it over night. It use to work well for me.

Try that and see what happens.

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Re: problematic hatchlings

Postby Bushviper » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:30 am

Some snakes just do not want to eat on their own. Believe it or not I am force feeding a house snake for just over a year now. She has never eaten on her own!!!
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Re: problematic hatchlings

Postby Bushbaby » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:06 pm

Bushviper wrote:Some snakes just do not want to eat on their own. Believe it or not I am force feeding a house snake for just over a year now. She has never eaten on her own!!!


And her brother is twice the size of her, and he is eating on his own!
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Re: problematic hatchlings

Postby Heinz09 » Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:43 pm

:( that is exactly the case with the boas, the one loves anything that looks like food, the other just doesnt care...

I tried pretty much everything except force feeding, so I guess that means I will have to try it and hope that helps.

Thanks for all the help so far, I will definately know what works for the few hatchlings I have at the moment.
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Re: problematic hatchlings

Postby Bob H » Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:08 am

Heinz, have you tried tease feeding. Most ratsnakes including corns can be induced to feed by holding them behind the head (loosely) and wiggling a dead warm pinky in front of them until they strike and HOLD on. If you freeze and perhaps exert a little more pressure on the snake many will go ahead and finish eating the pinky. Usually 2-3 time of doing this will get them feeding on their own.
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Re: problematic hatchlings

Postby Bushbaby » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:13 am

Is this a Boa or a Cornsnake you are having a problem with? Just realised you mentioned Boa and this is the cornsnake forum.
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Re: problematic hatchlings

Postby Heinz09 » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:23 am

Umm sorry, that would be my mistake, the 5x Corns and the one 1x Boa...

The only reason I am so concerned is because these corns have not eaten since they hatched, 4 of them, the rest are eating quite well.

My one boa loves anything that he can eat and doesn't hesitate, but the other just ignores it until the food is gone.

I tried the boas and corns with both live and dead pinkies, I tried brained, I tried scented... I pretty much tried as much as I can think of :(
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Re: problematic hatchlings

Postby Bushbaby » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:27 am

Do you keep all the cornsnakes together, or are they seperated? Same with the Boas? What sized cage are they in? What is the cage temperature? What substrate are you keeping them on?
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Re: problematic hatchlings

Postby Heinz09 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:05 pm

Corns:

Those who have already eaten x2 in the same place. [2]
Those who have eaten x1 in the same place [1]
Those who have not eaten since birth [1 jan 09] in the same place

When I try to feed them I leave them overnight with the prey,
this is done in a small plastic jar under a blanket, so that it is totally dark.

So far some of them have eaten live prey, [pinkies] but they refuse to eat dead ones.
Those who have not eaten I'm still trying to figure out what to feed them and how.
I have scented the pinkies, put them in live, dead... I have brained pinkies...
Pretty much everything but I still have these 4 problem eaters.
2 of them eat very well and cause no problems.

All the hatchlings have shed at least once, some of the better eaters have shed their second time.

Colombian Rainbow Boas

They were born on the 16th of November,
they each live in their separate place.

The one eats everything, he will kill a dead pinky and swallow it. Very healthy eater.

The other is less successful, since I got her she has not eaten :(

Temperature is room temperature, which is about 28-30C and in the day a bit hotter, but not that much 32-34C.
Substrate on all the living quarters are newspaper.

I hope this helps, and hopefully some of you can give me an idea.
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