Albino mole snake???

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Albino mole snake???

Postby hammies » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:04 am

Has anybody maybe got a photo of an albino mole snake?
I have seen a snake this weekend near Balito that I could not identify and
a friend suggested that it was maybe an albino mole snake.
I have a photo of it but forgot it at home, I will post it tommorow.
But in the meantime I thought maybe someone can help with a photo of their own.
i'm not a complete idiot, some parts are still missing!!
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Re: Albino mole snake

Postby Fooble » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:34 am

I am not sure of many Mole snakes around Balito but There was an albino night adder from there in the past if i am not mistaken.

Post the photo and im sure we can ID it.
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Re: Albino mole snake

Postby Bushviper » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:50 am

There was a female albino male snake around a while ago. It had a pinkish juvenile pattern on it. It is also possible to get almost pure white mole snakes from the desert areas of Southern Africa. The babies have normal baby patterns so it is not a genetic morph.
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Re: Albino mole snake

Postby hammies » Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:48 pm

I will post pics tomorrow.
Thanks for the replies so far.
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Re: Albino mole snake

Postby hammies » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:25 am

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Excuse the gloves but he bites like a demon, and he had to be subdued to take decent pictures :D

The spot under his chin is just unshed skin that seems to be stuck.
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Re: Albino mole snake

Postby monopeltis » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:40 am

Very weird!!! Some genetic mishap for sure...but what species it is has me baffled!!

It almost resembles an olive house snake????
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Re: Albino mole snake

Postby Snakes4Africa » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:44 am

Very weird. Its not a Mole snake and does look a bit like an Olive House snake. Could you post an unrestrained pic of the snake from above?
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Re: Albino mole snake

Postby Pythonodipsas » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:45 am

Interesting find?

Probably an escapee. It's head shape resembles one of the Bull, Gopher or Pine snakes (Pituophis). There are a number of Pituophis morphs around, including albino and patternless. This could be a calico form.
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Re: Albino mole snake

Postby Fooble » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:48 am

That is WEIRD!

Definitely not a mole snake though.
An olive but what about those markings on the snake?

It's pretty ugly though haha.

What about an exotic escapee?
It loks quite heavily bodied too maybe a bit too healthy?
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Re: Albino mole snake

Postby michael » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:22 am

The snake appears to have keeled ventral scales. This is not the case with Mole snakes or olives, the body scales are to smooth and the head shape is not correct. I would tend to think its an escapee possibly one of rat snakes.
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Re: Albino mole snake

Postby monopeltis » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:27 am

albino southern pine snake from east bay viv:

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Re: Albino mole snake

Postby Fooble » Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:38 am

monopeltis gees thats on ugly snake!

how do you think it got all the way from the US then ;)
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Re: Albino mole snake

Postby Bushviper » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:10 am

Yip some exotic. Who has the animal now?
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Re: Albino mole snake

Postby Serpy » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:13 am

Looks alot more like a gopher snake.
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Re: Albino mole snake

Postby rolandslf » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:01 am

I would say that , that is an Albino Bull Snake, a species which takes no prisoners, i.e. "Bites like a Demon".
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