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the Tropidolaemus confusion

Postby herpaworld » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:10 am

good morning south-africa,

the whole family of Tropidolaemus is in badly need of revision. many scientist have tried it but made it actually more confusing. we have just finished the first paper, out of a series of tree regarding systematics and reorganization of the Tropidolaemus genus, and we have described some new full species. check Zootaxa for more informations on it, i will update you, as soon as it has been published (probably within the next 6-8 weeks). well, meanwhile - i will show you guys some pictures (without any systematic comment to it). all this animals on the pictures you see here, are already cb- some of them already F3 generation.

the believe, Tropidolaemus is a delicate species and hard to maintain is just not the full truth. if one is willing to provide this stunning, old world pit-viper with their needs, he will find out, it is a hard and rewarding display animal with a very good chance in reproducing them.

there you go:


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female - Negros, Philippines

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female - Negros, Philippines


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juvenile male - Negros, Philippines


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female - north Mindanao, Philippines


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female - south Mindanao, Philippines


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female - Luzon, Philippines


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female - Palawan, Philippines


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close up female, Blue Morph - Palawan, Philippines



there are some few more, but i dont find picture right now, next time perhaps.


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Postby Bushviper » Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:28 am

I see you only have one juvenile male picture. I have been told they are much prettier than the females.

Is this true for Philippine specimens because these females are absolutely stunning?
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Postby herpaworld » Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:46 am

no, its certainly not true at all. most males, also from other populations around south east asia. the females are the "lookers" the males, usually looks very similar. except the blue variation from negros, all are green, with more or less red dots.

i will try to post some pictures of males...

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Postby Bushbaby » Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:53 am

Wow, those are awesome. Really nice looking snakes you have there!!
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Postby armata » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:11 pm

Look forward to your paper; I guess as it stands the two species T.wagleri & T.huttoni are pretty well geographically isolated. I have always thought that wagleri may one day reveal a species complex.

e.g. in a similar that some members of Vipera and Bitis do.
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Postby xerophak » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:25 pm

they are not my fort but I must recognize that these are wonderful.

precious,

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Postby herpaworld » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:17 am

Hi all,


as promised, the first part of the Revision is published.
available here:

http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2007f/z01644p040f.pdf


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Postby Bushbaby » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:19 am

Hello and welcome back!! Long time no see.

Will have a look. Thanks.
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Postby Bushviper » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:20 am

Hi Mario.

We thought you had been swept away by the bad weather. good to see you back again.

Thank you for the link.

You are welcome to post more of your stunning photos.
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Postby herpaworld » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:34 am

thanks, i am keeping on surviving the very bad weather..

pictures follow soon...


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Postby dendroaspis » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:04 am

Gah!! Now I can't wait to read the rest!!!

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Postby herpaworld » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:09 am

its a 40 pages paper, dont know how to get it on the page there, (perhaps you need to spend few bucks?) or a email to me, maybe...
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Postby dendroaspis » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:29 am

I would love to read it though.
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Postby Bushviper » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:15 pm

Will whoever gets it please make it available to other members via a link or e-mail please.
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Postby herpaworld » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:34 pm

i posted the link, unfortunately, i cant set up the whole paper for upload. that is against the agreement with the publisher, but of course, if somebody ask directly the author, this is a different story. if somebody is interested, he still need to send a email.

sorry, but rules are rules guys
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