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Touchy Subject !!!

Postby madcow » Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:25 am

Hi Guys

I know this is tough but what ways are the best to euthanize your reptiles
(exotic or indiginous)
Most Humane methods and How do you dispose of the corpse???
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Postby elapid » Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:36 pm

If i may ask, why do you wanna euthanize reptiles?
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Postby Kouthia » Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:34 pm

put them in the freezer.
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Postby Snakes Incorporated » Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:56 pm

kouthia wrote:put them in the freezer.


It is the best way for them to go if it is the last resort. The animal goes into a habitation state and never defrosts if you know what I mean.
Don’t kill it, if you are not planning to eat it.
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Postby phobos » Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:28 pm

Actually the AZA (American Zoo & Aquarium Association) does not permit freezing reptiles as an acceptable means of euthanize reptiles in member institutions. The process is very slow and painful as the cells freeze & burst from ice crystals.

The way I use is Carbon Dioxide gas flow into a sealed box, Nitrogen Gas can also be used.


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Postby snake_freak » Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:35 pm

Freezing is definetly not a humane method of euthanasia for herps. It is often accepted that they get cold, go into hibernation and never wake up.
Not the case though, herps may enter a state of torpor (dormant, inactive state of hibernating or estivating) but they are still able to feel the pain associated with the formation of ice crystals in the body tissues :( Image the feeling of injecting yourself with liquid nitrogen...Ouwwwch :cry: Even an injection with a cold substance hurts, so freezing must be extremely painful. If freezing is going to be done the animal should be anesthetized first.

I'd recommend CO2 gasing, as long as the gas is increased gradually.
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Postby snake_freak » Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:37 pm

Hey phobos you beat me to it :lol:
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Postby phobos » Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:40 pm

Well I was not trying...

Besides we both have the correct answer, so we both win! :lol:
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Postby snake_freak » Sun Dec 25, 2005 4:48 am

True that :)
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Postby madcow » Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:53 pm

Elapid wrote:If i may ask, why do you wanna euthanize reptiles?


Lets say you breedreptile you find a few slugs or deforms or you favourite reptile accedently gets injured and the time has come

I read that some guys recommend decapitation :shock:
yeah right with your favourite pet of 10 years
Go right ahead then i would rather take it to the vet!!

Or hitting it over the head with a really large spoon :shock:

Anyway thanks for the input it definetly seems like Gassing would be option no1 and then maybe freezing

Ps What do you do with the carcass
(after taking notes od D.O.D ect for register)
Do you take it to onderstepoort??
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Postby Gabi » Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:02 pm

If I had to euthanize one of my pets I'd take them to Onderstepoort to be put to sleep in my eyes "the humane way" I'd take my dog if she was suffering to be put to sleep by a vet I'd do the same for my snakes. I wouldn't do it myself.
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Postby froot » Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:03 pm

Stick it in the fridge and offer it to someone with king cobras... ;)
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Postby Gabi » Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:20 pm

LOL @ froot
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Postby madcow » Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:44 pm

thanks for turning such a touchy subject into something a bit more aproachable :D
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Postby Bushviper » Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:17 pm

Nope freezing is not the way to go. Very painful for the animal.

A swift smack on the head with a hammer is the quickest method but dont miss or hit your thumb.

Gas is also okay just do not take them out of the plastic bag too soon. Leave them overnight at least.

The corpse can still be frozen for someone who needs food for a king cobra (hint hint)

Having the reptile euthanazed at a vet is also a good option but then it cannot be used as food, which some might see as a waste (hint hint)
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