ID please, S. Durban, bird eater

ID please, S. Durban, bird eater

Postby RicketyHat » Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:07 pm

We are non-natives and totally new to identifying snakes, but we've been through Marais' "Complete Guide to Snakes of South Africa" with no success.

Seen in our garden, Amanzimtoti (south of Durban), about 2 km from coast in a suburban garden, beneath a flower bed containing a bird-feeder. 4.30 pm, hot sunny day (about 30 degrees C). Heard a couple of Indian Minas' alarm calls, they were standing near the snake shouting at it, together with some weavers. We think it's a female Village Weaver that it's eating. The lawn had been mowed earlier in the day - the grass was quite long after the holiday break.

The snake only appeared to get as far as the head before giving up and leaving the rest of the body, so maybe it is unused to eating birds that size?

Many thanks.

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Re: ID please, S. Durban, bird eater

Postby Qwerty » Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:18 pm

Thats a brown house snake. I've never heard of them eating birds though.
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Re: ID please, S. Durban, bird eater

Postby kfc223 » Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:21 pm

Well I am pretty sure that is just a brown house snake from the colour and the pattering on the neck. A photo of the head would help confirm it because brown house snakes have two distinct lines above the eyes.

I think there was a topic on the forum about them catching birds a while a ago.

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Here is that topic
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Re: ID please, S. Durban, bird eater

Postby jka » Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:31 pm

That is a house snake for sure!
I remember Byrone Zimmerman telling a story about a bhs eating a dove and on the Snakes Of Southern Africa fb page, you can spot some photos of house snakes snacking on birds.
My captive bred house snakes have eaten budgies on ocations as well.
Remember house snakes are generalist they wil take anything they might fit in their bellies.
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Re: ID please, S. Durban, bird eater

Postby RicketyHat » Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:44 pm

Brilliant! Thanks guys. We've seen Olive House Snakes (in the cool months they hide under the pool pump cover, on the pool filter) before but never a Brown HS. And, thankfully, harmless.

Our book says the Brown HS is nocturnal though?
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Re: ID please, S. Durban, bird eater

Postby Psychogav » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:54 pm

Definitely a Housie. They are more active at night, but I have found loads in the day too. These are by far the best South African Snake. I am always surprised at the meal size they can handle.
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Re: ID please, S. Durban, bird eater

Postby Nick Evans » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:34 pm

Like the first pic! You were very lucky to see that!
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Re: ID please, S. Durban, bird eater

Postby RicketyHat » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:29 pm

And the birds are happy too - I felt able to fill their feeder, thanks to you all confirming I wouldn't be fanged!

Cheers and thanks again.
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Re: ID please, S. Durban, bird eater

Postby coral snake » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:58 pm

Impressive!!! I had a hard time finding Brown house snakes in the time I lived there... Strange enough they always favoured Kuswag school! Once again nice find!!
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